tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-558253513796745662.post2402341515175583272..comments2023-08-13T07:09:16.921-04:00Comments on Contextual Criticism: Rick Warren, hypocritical invocator, in Jesus' nameLowellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15305748075301453010noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-558253513796745662.post-87969409760640123292009-04-30T10:48:00.000-04:002009-04-30T10:48:00.000-04:00Indeed, believing in a loving God that would tortu...Indeed, believing in a loving God that would torture someone in hell for an eternity for merely sinning a few insignificant years really questions me what kind of God, Mr Warren believes in. Obviously with all my respect, he doesn't really understand his own loving Creator which is why many folks would raise their eyebrows at how some professed Christians understand their own religion and profess it to others. Another awkward statement was to say that Dr. King was rejoicing during the inauguration. How can that be possible? Didn't he die at least a few decades ago? Jesus himself testified that if one dies he/she goes to the grave until the resurection day. I'm not aware of any resurections lately, least that of Dr. King that supposely was rejoicing at the inauguration event. I would also agree that Mr. Warren should have thought about many things he did/does including that of allowing various individuals with certain orientations and beliefs to attend his church, etc. Jesus whom Christians believe is God didn't condemn anyone, so why should any of us?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-558253513796745662.post-58884250147476013692009-02-12T19:51:00.000-05:002009-02-12T19:51:00.000-05:00Anonymous is wrong.Anonymous is wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-558253513796745662.post-60700883032184451092009-02-12T18:46:00.000-05:002009-02-12T18:46:00.000-05:00You, anon, must have a hard time understanding. I...You, anon, must have a hard time understanding. I wasn't speaking of his Christian values, although I think his values are anything BUT Christian! I said Warren speaks of inclusiveness....BUT his words and actions are clear that he does NOT mean it. That's being a hypocrite. You can't go around saying you just looooove gays, and then keep them out of your church and fight to deny their civil rights.<BR/><BR/>And what makes you think you've got the ONE right religion of all the thousands that infest our earth? And even if you think Christianity is the "right," religion, what makes you think your particular version, out of all the thousands of variations, is the RIGHT one?<BR/><BR/>I'd suggest you go back and read some books other than fundamentalist christianist pap. And then try to reason like a human being.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and stop trying to scare people into heaven. That doesn't work! As Jesus said, "It's one hell of a thing to do!"Lowellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15305748075301453010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-558253513796745662.post-56311971085035814252009-02-12T17:45:00.000-05:002009-02-12T17:45:00.000-05:00Just because Pastor Warren is holds Christian valu...Just because Pastor Warren is holds Christian values does not mean he is hypocritical.<BR/><BR/>"A major problem is that Warren may speak of inclusiveness, about treating one another with respect, but he doesn't mean it."<BR/><BR/>With maturity comes the ability to respect people even though we disagree with them. We should indeed treat all people with respect and dignity. Just because we disagree with something that someone is doing does not mean we should act disrespecfully to them. Pastor Warren is absolutely right when he talks about respecting all people. He is a Christian pastor. He stands on his values. He is unafraid to say that he is right and others are wrong, that believing in Jesus is the only way to heaven, and all nonbelievers are destined for eternal seperation from God. To say that every way is the right way is totally contradictory. That is like saying that murdering someone or not murdering someone are both equally correct and deserve no consequence. That is like that commercial where someone walks into a laundermat and asks for his shirt to be both starched and not starched. Those things are mutually exclusive. Both cannot exist simultaneously. For the world's religions, there has to be one right answer and the rest are going to be wrong. It is an impossibility to say that all religions are right. This is logically impossible. So Pastor Warren believes he is right. I would suggest if you have no belief system to start really seeking some answers. If one religion is indeed the right one, you had better hope you believe in it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-558253513796745662.post-56994452138929718932009-01-22T11:06:00.000-05:002009-01-22T11:06:00.000-05:00I thought God was God. For Christians, that includ...I thought God was God. For Christians, that includes His son but for others it excludes them. God is universal. The use of other names like Allah, Jesus, etc exclude many that think there is but one God regardless of what others call Him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-558253513796745662.post-53344328760450402412009-01-21T17:57:00.000-05:002009-01-21T17:57:00.000-05:00That's why he should never have been asked to invo...That's why he should never have been asked to invocate in the first place. If one is going to nod to god at an event that wraps around the US of A, then do an inclusive prayer. If you can't do that, decline the invitation.<BR/><BR/>Warren believes that all who don't believe as he does will burn in hell. This is not a man to be praying at an inauguration!<BR/><BR/>But, again, as I said, no one should be "officially" praying at an inauguration.<BR/><BR/>JacobLowellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15305748075301453010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-558253513796745662.post-68868166437372891192009-01-21T14:27:00.000-05:002009-01-21T14:27:00.000-05:00Your argument is a bit silly. Would you expect a M...Your argument is a bit silly. Would you expect a Muslim to pray to the Christian God? Should a Hindu pray to Allah? Would an atheist even pray? Could an agnostic decide if he/she should pray? <BR/><BR/>"We also know that the god he prayed to today is the Christian god. Atheists, agnostics, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Buddhist, etc., were excluded."<BR/><BR/>Warren could only pray according to HIS faith. Anything else WOULD have been hypocritical.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-558253513796745662.post-64188367382201107032009-01-21T08:48:00.000-05:002009-01-21T08:48:00.000-05:00You are exactly right...and I knew that, too, as I...You are exactly right...and I knew that, too, as I had just read about the divorce re: abuse thing.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for pointing that out.<BR/><BR/>JacobLowellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15305748075301453010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-558253513796745662.post-31431882867528079962009-01-21T08:25:00.000-05:002009-01-21T08:25:00.000-05:00"A major problem is that Warren may speak of inclu..."A major problem is that Warren may speak of inclusiveness, about treating one another with respect, but he doesn't mean it."<BR/>This is actually why I have more respect for some of the fanatics I blog about. At least they are honest when they say that they are right and everyone else is pathetically wrong.<BR/><BR/>Also, you left out his feelings towards women. I've been bringing this up as often as I can because many people seem to not be aware of it. If you go to his website, there's a FAQ of some sort that has audios of Warren answering questions. One of the questions is whether or not divorce is OK in cases of spousal abuse. Warren says, in short, NO.<BR/>If thats not misogyny, I don't know what is. Women are, quite obviously, work animals, like horses.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com